

From the look of the AXP chart I'd say it has already started. A break below the $40 support would not be good for the consumer outlook. I think it's safe to say that Discover is having trouble with defaults and delinquencies also.
Folks I think we have tough times ahead. I also think the current four year cycle has already topped out. If the market manages to trade below the Jan & Mar. lows before this 22 week cycle bottoms then we can add in not only a failed seasonal cycle but one that is left translated. The average decline for a failed seasonal cycle is -30+%.
This is not a pretty picture brewing here